It’s not everyday that you get the opportunity to talk with from someone who is influential in your thinking and learning. For me, yesterday was that day, and I want to share it with you.
I had the privilege of having a conversation with David Zahl from Mockingbird Ministries earlier this week. To say that David (and Mockingbird) have been helping to shape my thinking would be a true statement and, in some ways, an odd thing to say. You see, the message they articulate, as they readily admit, is not their message. As their name impliues, mockingbirds sinn a song that they’ve be given. Similarly, David and Mockingbird MInistries share a message of grace -- the message of freedom in Jesus that doesn’t belong to anyone. Their faithful “repeating” of grace has been a needed balm to my soul. I have been deeply encouraged, moved, and inspired by the way God is using Mockingbird as a whole and David in particular. I mean, if a guy can lead you to admit our universal need for grace by discussing Seinfeld clips, aren’t you in too?
So, I’m thrilled to share this conversation with you via our podcast. This week’s episode of The Slow Down is brought to you by the letter “g” for grace. Russ and I have a conversation with David Zahl and I think you’re going to be encouraged, challenged, and laugh. The conversation begins and ends with grace, but in between they discuss answer critics with hugs, Robert Farrah Capon, humor, the Mockingbird NYC Conference, and more.
Want some examples? Here are a couple quotes from David Zahl on the podcast:
“Maybe the life of ministry is just being there. Being present across the table, if by God’s grace, we get to be there when the ‘death’ (coming to end of self) occurs.”
“Every voice out there is telling us we are not free. That we have to do something to leverage love. So, sometimes it can be a lonely thing to proclaim the beauty and radical fulness of the gospel."
I invite you to listen in on this conversation and be refreshed anew in the goodness of the grace of Jesus.
And if you’re in the NYC area, consider joining Mockingbird for their conference April 26-28.
I hope you enjoy it! Episode 013 - The Word of the Day is Grace: An Interview with David Zahl